I dont really know. Leisure released Survivor and that is easily one of the most hardcore stories I've ever read. It has a man being raped by a Dildo covered in Razor Blades and a baby being mutalated.
It doesnt get more hardcore than that.
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| Author: | Wetbones [ Sat Aug 26, 2006 12:08 pm ] |
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I've been reading a ton of their books recently (they are cheap and a lot of them are really fuckin' good), not just Ed's stuf but also Waggoner, Laymon, Keene, Jacobs, Lebbon etc. etc. and I'm starting to wonder where those guys draw the line. I mean a lot of their books get pretty damn outrageous with both the violence and the sex. Would they really turn down a book like BIGHEAD* or GAST? Is there some kind of list they hand to signed writers with things that are big no-nos? *Tim Waggoner's PANDORA DRIVE even has character growing a monster cock and fucking people to shreds with it. |
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| Author: | lazy2006 [ Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:04 pm ] |
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I dont really know. Leisure released Survivor and that is easily one of the most hardcore stories I've ever read. It has a man being raped by a Dildo covered in Razor Blades and a baby being mutalated. It doesnt get more hardcore than that.
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| Author: | Jack Staynes [ Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:10 pm ] |
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Suvivor was a fucking blast, and let us not forget Mr. Ketchums "Girl Next Door" perhaps not as hardcore as getting ass fucked with a razor blade dildo, but still a disturbing book none the less. |
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| Author: | Edward Lee [ Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:02 pm ] |
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Indeed, Leisure does push the limit with extremity (and Survivor was especially explicit and very good, too) but personally I'm referring to the really scatological stuff. The sex in GAST I suspect would be deemed too smutty for the readership at large, for instance. Or in The Bighead, for example, the double urinary catheterization between nun and priest and the religious invectives wouldn't be well received editorially 'cos it might cause the book to get dropped from a distributor. Of course I could be wrong! Best, Edward Lee |
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| Author: | Nephren-Ka [ Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:56 pm ] |
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| Author: | Edward Lee [ Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:15 pm ] |
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I appreciate the compliment! Best, Edward Lee PS--I think my personal favorite gross-out in my own work, however, is the Shake-a-puddin' scene in THE HOUSE, which is a sequel novella to THE PIG. |
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| Author: | Nephren-Ka [ Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:39 pm ] |
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I actually dont remember that part in The House. Atleast this gives me reason to go back and read it again. |
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| Author: | Insalubrious [ Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:38 am ] |
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I realize this is an older post, but i can't help but to reply. Leisure is making a bad move not publishing ALL of your works Mr. Lee. Does this company not see their sales in the mass market for your works? I have to preorder your Leisure titles through Barnes & Noble, they order about 10 copies per store in my area and i'm lucky to get the copy i get. Every title they stock of yours sells out. if a company like Barnes & Noble has no problem putting your works on their shelves, then i don't understand why Leisure has a problem pressing them. I guess they're allergic to making money. A company like Leisure should be aware enough to see what kind of sales your small press books bring, and capitalize on that in the mass markets. It's pathetic, and it's a shame that the general populace isn't being exposed to some of the greatest literary works of our time. |
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| Author: | lthrby1 [ Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Too Hardcore for Leisure Books? |
I often wondered this myself. I mean, some of the sex scenes in Gast, while not my cup of tea, I didn't think they were that extreme. Whereas in Brides of The Impaler, there is a part where a woman performs fellatio on an impaled male body. That to me, is Hardcore (but I wasn't offended by it.). Yet, Leisure let that go through. So, I'm kinda confused on what exactly would be deemed the "grey area". Looking forward to The Golem. I'm getting it Sunday. |
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| Author: | carthoss [ Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:17 pm ] |
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Who wrote Survivor sounds like my cup of tea?? |
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| Author: | jonah [ Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:12 pm ] |
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It was written by JF Gonzalez. It was a novel that was extended from a shorter novella called Maternal Instinct. This is off the top of my head so feel free to correct me if I am wrong...  -jonah |
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| Author: | carthoss [ Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:59 pm ] |
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Cheers ....added to my list |
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| Author: | Babaganoosh [ Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:53 pm ] |
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On the topic of Survivor....it's a mean book. But damn is it good. It was my first JF Gonzalez book that I read and I instantly became a fan of his. And yeah it's really suprising Leisure released it uncut. Also I'm still suprised they released Wrath James White's Succulent Prey uncut. That's a nasty little book too. |
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| Author: | carthoss [ Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:24 pm ] |
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i liked Succulent Prey too, so i really need to find Survivor |
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| Author: | Lilith666 [ Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:27 pm ] |
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Whats wrong with a little gore? Survivor and Succulent Prey are very good. But I will always be a Lee girl. |
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| Author: | lthrby1 [ Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:48 am ] |
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It must be just male gay sex. IIRC, there's some woman on woman lovin' going on in Brides. |
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| Author: | Lilith666 [ Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:19 am ] |
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| Author: | Edward Lee [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:52 pm ] |
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Folks: I can guarantee that in HEADER 2 there is Equal Opportunity sex! Edward Lee |
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| Author: | JPOKELA [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Too Hardcore for Leisure Books? |
My Great Dane/Chihuahua mix dog demands equal representation for all God's critters!! It just isn't right for only humans to experience the glory of headers!! |
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| Author: | Edward Lee [ Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:05 pm ] |
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JPOLEKA: wow, you must be psychic... Edward Lee |
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| Author: | carthoss [ Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:42 pm ] |
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In my opinion female gay sex is always ok and male on male...NOT lol Seriously though my wife managed to order me Survivor J.gonzalez Secrets of the bones Teri Jacobs Apeshit Carlton Mellick Any particular order i should read them ?? |
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| Author: | Wetbones [ Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:19 pm ] |
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| Author: | carthoss [ Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:12 pm ] |
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Haha Ever Nat...one of my favorites!!! My wife just read it this month too |
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