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| Author: | squeakytherat [ Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Grrrr |
Today I received a '94 pb copy of Creekers. I looked online to make sure it was the same version as the Necro edition, and during my search I encountered a whole shitload of illegal Ed ebooks. It made me angry. Grrr |
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| Author: | bigheadsballsack [ Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grrrr |
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| Author: | squeakytherat [ Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grrrr |
Sorry. Did that make no sense? I blame nearly three years of sleep deprivation. This is what I meant: I ordered a copy of Creekers from HPB marketplace. The version I received was a '94 pb that I'd never seen before (the cover is a bit lame) from Zebra. I wondered if it was the same edition as the Necro publication, so I searched online and right away it brought up a pirate site with Creekers as a free download - along with a whole load of other Ed Lee titles. I was angered. Then I crawled back under my rock. |
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| Author: | tym [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grrrr |
I have seen Header in ebook format. Not sure how they do that. Dont wanna know. I will wait. But I guess more and more people are doing this. Putting ebooks out there. Not sure if its the full book or what the deal is. |
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| Author: | necrodave [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grrrr |
What is this pirate site? Because I own the rights to most of Ed's back catalogue and I'd like to see what's going on. Later Dave B. Necro Publications |
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| Author: | squeakytherat [ Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grrrr |
Sentry Squeaky reporting for duty! sending you a pm, Dave. |
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| Author: | Edward Lee [ Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grrrr |
Thanks for the info--shit! I will put a CURSE on that website! Edward Lee |
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| Author: | Wetbones [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grrrr |
It's really pretty easy to scan a book's pages and put them through some OCR text recognition software. Hell, I've done it with Japanese text, so I'm sure it's a piece of cake with English. Thing is, you have to "debind" the book first, in order to be able to scan the pages. So whoever runs that pirating site is a criminal in more than one sense. First and foremost he's cutting into Ed's profits but also he's tearing apart copies of those rare books! He should do time in the slammer just for that. |
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| Author: | necrodave [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grrrr |
It's a bit torrent site. Basically someone bought the eBook, probably the Smashwords since Kindle and BN are encrypted and uploaded it for people to download. Pain in the ass but that's the world of modern media. Digital books are now subject to the same problems movies, software and music have been dealing with for a decade. Later Dave B. |
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| Author: | flahorrorwriter [ Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:01 am ] |
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| Author: | tym [ Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:17 pm ] |
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| Author: | necrodave [ Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grrrr |
Damn, I could actually use that for the older Ed Lee titles we're planning on getting out here soon. But there are services that are cheaper than buying this machine. I'd love to see how well it works. |
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| Author: | tym [ Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grrrr |
| Author: | tym [ Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:47 pm ] |
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| Author: | squeakytherat [ Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grrrr |
Wow. You really have a large bee up your ass about this whole digital thing. If you think someone's going to upload Ed's new releases to a fileshare site as soon as they're out what the hell are you complaining about???? You'll be able to get it free and read it way before I will! Oh look, a squirrel.... 
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| Author: | tym [ Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grrrr |
Thats Simple. I HATE piracy. I have all the respect in the world for Lee. I dont wanna steal it. I wanna buy it. Like most other people want to. But when cant buy it, then what? Hate to see Lee or His Publisher Loose money. There is no reason for it. Its not Piracy that is killing Publishers, Its there lack of actions, Its sitting on there hands and not offering the masses what they want. Just makes me sad, They are simply doing the same thing the Record Industry did. In the end its gonna bite them. To many will loose there job. Rumor Has It J K Rollins is gonna self publish her own ebook stuff on amazon. Many are gonna start doing that. More Profit for the author. Its just sad many are gonna be out of work in the end. It dosent need to be that way. |
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| Author: | crackjaw [ Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grrrr |
IMHO, I love the ebooks for the simply reason they are way more affordable. I love though the feel of the paper, illustrations that don't come with the ebooks and just looking at them sitting on my shelf. I too suffer the instant gratification bug and really want them as soon as they are out in any format I can get them. I'm really grateful for Deadite Press putting out really cheap a lot of stuff that would cost me an arm and a leg. Who else can't wait for Mangled Meat!! I read this awhile ago and it is somewhat interesting view of piracy. I don't think that piracy could ever really be stopped and worse would be someone putting out a bootleg hard edition, that I am lead to believe is the worse of the bunch. Strange enough it was someone sharing a copy of Bighead that got me spending my bucks on everything I could get my hands on! Though it sucks I bought most of the stuff through e-bay or abebooks, so Lee isn't getting any of the money except through the original sale. There just ain't nothing like the smell of that paper! Plus I love reading them on the subway and hearing someone beside me gasp as they decided to read along. |
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| Author: | JPOKELA [ Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Grrrr |
Tym has some very interesting things to say. It is good to hear from various viewpoints. His views may very well reflect the views of a great many people. I have read J. A. Konrath's blog on occasion and have read many of his books. Funny guy. I am not going to weigh in on this discussion because I don't think my opinion counts for shit........ Ah hell, maybe I will. Here goes. Ereader sales will not bite into Signed/Limited sales at all. S/L will always be a vast minority of overall readers. Release new books in every format at the same time. There is a huge potential Ed Lee audience that hasn't discovered him yet. Tym's point about Deadite releases is a tough one to discuss. Hey Tym, these books are re-releases of old material. Deadite probably hasn't been sold the digital rights. Ed probably holds them and will eventually market these stories digitally through Necro Publications. Tym has a point about expectations. It is, you know, all about now. Immediate gratifacation. J "poor impulse control" Pokela |
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